Thursday, April 16, 2015

Why I || Don't Care About "Gay Rights"

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What if I told you that I agree with the following statement: "Michigan's gay rights record is an embarrassment. We risk becoming the next state to draw the national spotlight as a backwards, unwelcoming place if our policy-makers do not act swiftly to right the wrongs imposed on Michigan's lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community."
 
...Based on the fact that the majority of our followers are Christians, you probably think I'm crazy. Well, I'm here to tell you that I do in fact agree with this excerpt from a local newspaper's opinion page. Why is a whole other thing entirely. 


You see, I am of the knowledge that if you do not believe we are under "bondage" any more, than anything is permissible. Being "gay" included. Why? Because where does it tell us in the Bible that homosexuality (etc.) is a sin, an abomination? The Torah, specifically Leviticus 18:22, and 20:13. Yahshua never specifically told us in the Gospels that it was a sin. So, is it? Why do Christians hold fast to their belief that this is still a sin, when in fact, according to their beliefs, it is not? Now you might tell me of when Paul said "Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men..." But do we obey what he said because He said it? Or because God Almighty said it first?! And where exactly does he get this information from? The "scriptures"? What scriptures did they have at the time? The Torah, and the Old Testament. Folks, if you believe lying is a sin, if you believe stealing is a sin, if you believe serving idols is a sin, why are we not protesting those things in the streets? James 2:10 says,"For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one [point], he is guilty of all." Do people think that because being homosexual is a lifestyle God condemns we should be so staunch in our "fight" against it? Being a thief is a lifestyle, being a liar is a lifestyle, being gay is just another sinful lifestyle people. To tell you the truth, I wouldn't be any more uncomfortable in a room filled with gay men (or women!) than in a room filled with thieves. It's all the same to me. 

 Why I // Think Being "Gay" is "Okay"

So, now that I think I've made my point about where He says it is a sin, and that if you believe it is a sin, you are following Torah, the instructions for righteousness, not a "New Covenant" teaching, I'll tell you why I don't really care if gay people have "equal rights" as heterosexuals. First of all, giving rights to gay people is just the start. Soon it will be "equal rights for liars", "equal rights for adulterers". I know, sounds loony but just you wait and see. And why do I think it's just the start? Because without God's Word, (John 1:14, Jesus/Yahshua made flesh) and His moral laws, HIS doctrine (Proverbs 4:2, Torah is good doctrine) we can no more think the world will agree with us than we believe a fish will grow legs walk out of the water and start barking! I'm serious! Why do we consistently contradict YHVH's Word by wanting the World to follow God when we aren't even following Him ourselves? If we read His Word as we should, we would know that the World will never love us, never agree with us, never truly accept us! If they do, either something's wrong with your way of obeying Him, or the Devil is trying to lure you out. Matthew 10:22 says,"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved." 

 John 15:18 tells us that,"If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you." Stop trying to fit in guys, we're not called to fit in so people will think we're "cool Christians". We're called to be different, a peculiar people, holy, set apart! Not everyone, only us. We shouldn't care if they like us.
 As Billy Graham once said,"Be attractive and winsome but do not compromise your convictions for the sake of popularity." 
And as I say,"Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right."
So, do I believe being LGBT is wrong? Of course. But do I believe we should make everyone else follow what our God tells us to do? Most certainly not. The World is full of sin, we have no say in what they choose to do, even if we think we should. We are not the Overcomer, HE IS! We are not called to make the World conform to us, and we should not conform to the World. We are only meant to do this: "For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps..." (First Peter 2:21.) Did Yahshua condemn homosexuality? I'm sure He did, for He only did the things He saw His Father doing.

I will leave you with these last verses: First Timothy 2:10- "The sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine." And as I have referenced once before, Proverbs states clearly,"For I give you sound teaching; Do not abandon my instruction."
In Hebrew, the word for instruction is Torah. Forsake we not His Word, His Son, His Torah. 

 If you have anything to add, or questions for me, please leave a comment! 

 -Rebekah

 Shalom!

17 comments:

  1. Yes! I have to agree with you on this. At first I wasn't sure if I would but when I read the whole thing then I did except the part of Yahshua not calling it a sin. He may not have said it was a sin doesn't mean it isn't. He also didn't tell the Samiritan women she was sinning either even though she had been married several times and the person she was with at the time wasn't married to her.And large crowds followed him, and he healed them there. And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one's wife for any cause?” He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” ... Matthew 19:2-9 Here is does illustrate that marriage is between a man and a women. But I do think he loves all sinners and doesn't condemn them but wants to set them free from sin. He loves homosexuals just as much as anyone else. I believe Paul was not a true apostle of Yahshua so I agree that is scripture contradicts Yahweh's because he mixes truth with his own opinion but that is a whole other subject. I want to add that Yahweh has given you some great insight and wisdom Sister. Shalom to you!

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  2. Interesting post.
    You might do well to have a read of Romans 1 though. Read the whole to get it in context, but then narrow it in on 24-27, which I have listed below.

    Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
    26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

    I think that is clear enough. I'd also recommend (from my personal experience) that you have a read of David Kupelian's book, "The Marketing of Evil", it's an invaluable source to get inside the marketing of the gay agenda. Reading the works of gay activists is another useful way to understand the emotional hooks used to re-enforce their views, as long as you remain aware.

    Just for the record, I agree with you whole heartedly that LGBT is wrong, but sin is sin, regardless of what it is (i.e. lying, adultery,etc). I support the respect of gay people that is due to every human being on the planet, but I also know that no battles are won (my country is going through the whole issue of same-sex marriage) by Christians who sit on the fence and say that they don't want to be 'in the world'. I'd much rather be a warrior on my knees in the mud then a relatively useless saint on the clouds.
    God bless you both, and say strong!

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  3. I didn't understand this post at all! Rebekah, I think you left out Romans 1. You're saying that if we agree with the certain verses then we are a follower of the torah? And it sounds like you're almost condemning that. Aren't you guys the ones who celebrate the sabbath. Aren't you the ones wearing tzit tzit? Don't you abstain from pork? While these are all good things to celebrate, shouldn't you be careful how you are directing this post. I know this is freedom of speech but I DO have the freedom of speech to call you out on this. As christians we should love our homosexual brethren and try to steer them in the right direction, but we should NOT verbally or physically abuse them , but show them real plan of God and give them hope. Sometimes God works out his plan through people.You're a huge fan of s=choosing life (me too!) so why aren't you saying, stop that too! Stop trying to tell people to get an abortion. Technically that's what you should do if you believe this. Or gun rights, stop protesting that too! I don't think there's anything wwrong with lovingly opening up about your opinion on homosexuality as a sin, shoudl there be a time. THe fact that you don't care about the rising rate of homosexuals disturbs, that means you should NOT care about abortion rates either.

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    1. I honestly don't know what you mean by pretty much all of this comment. This post has 0 to do with abortion. I never said I did not care about the "rising rate of homosexuality". What I don't care about is trying to resist it by attempting to enforce OUR laws given by God on the World. That is never going to work. Please sign off with a name next time you comment as I have no clue who I am talking to otherwise.

      ~Rebekah

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    2. I wanted to ask some of the questions in the beginning of the anonymous comment above, myself. It does seem contradictory to other posts you have had about the Old Testament laws. Other then that, I can see where you are trying to go, but if we were to take away all the biblical based laws from our country, in the name of "not making the world conform to our standards", that would include things like stealing and murder as well. God's laws are the basis of our society in many ways, even though the world tends to forget and reject them, so I think we should do our best to fight against the breakdown of these standards, and not passively accept them.

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    3. Anonymous above is using abortion as an example of something that we clearly know is wrong, so we should protest it! Just as homosexuality is clearly wrong. Or do you have double standards? Or do you simply not protest about any of these sins that are glorified all around us? Hope that helps you to understand.
      And by the way, you may say that you never said that you do not care about 'the rising rate of homosexuality', but for the record your post is headed "why I don't care about gay rights". Clarity of opinion would be helpful.
      If God is the overcomer (which He is), and is the only who is able to share His good news around (without us saying anything to influence public opinion or actively witnessing for Him) have you ever wondered why the heck you are alive on this earth? How can you glorify God if you can't even for-fill the great commission? "Go INTO all the world and PREACH the Gospel to every nation"
      God bless!

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    4. To Bethany:
      I can not see how the Old Testament-related parts of this post are any different than any other time I have talked about the Torah/Old Testament. In response to what you said about my opinion that we should not make the world conform to "our laws", I still hold that opinion. It is probably the pessimist in me who wants to point out that the World is going to get worse and no matter what WE do. The World IS following some of God's moral laws, but they refuse to give Him the credit for them. So, I think we should point them to Him, but, if they refuse, let them see just how far they can go without relying on anything God-related. The Truth is, we (humanity) are well on our way to finding out just how important indeed obeying our Maker is, if they won't listen, well, experience is the best teacher. If they fall on their face enough times, they'll figure out that they can't pick and choose what to obey. You can't take the authority away from a command. If a regular person told you can't carry a pocket knife into the bank, would you dig through your entire purse just to appease that stranger? Or would you just hurry in and out, knowing that you weren't going to do anything bad anyway? But if an officer told you you couldn't, you would definitely obey for fear of the consequence! Where there is authority there are consequences for sin. Take away the ultimate Authority, what do you get? The World we live in today. So when I say that we should not make the world conform to our laws (that are really GOD'S laws) I don't mean I want the world to run rampant with crimes, I mean that if they aren't going to acknowledge God as the maker of those laws, what's the point?
      ~Rebekah

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    5. To Sarah:
      the problem is, homosexuality ISN'T clearly wrong! Think about it, does it hurt anyone? No. This is an understanding I have come to since talking to some gay/lesbian people on my Instagram post about this. If you don't know God, know WHY He is telling us it is a sin, than, in the world's eyes, there is nothing wrong with it. We can't ONLY preach the Gospel, that is the problem today. The Gospel does not say anything about homosexuality. "Preach" it all, LIVE it all to the best of our abilities!
      I will forgive you for accusing me of having double standards, as I do not.
      ~Rebekah

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  4. Here is what i meant, you're saying don't be protesting homosexuality, well abortion is wrong but we shouldn't protest that either. You also say that to look at those verses in the OT on gay stuff and follow is being a follower of torah, you sound condescending in that, yet you weat tzit tzityout, honor the sabbath, and abstian from pork.

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    1. As I have asked people many times, please sign off with a name so I know whom I am addressing.
      I am at a loss of how to respond to this comment, when did I say you should not 'protest' abortion? I haven't. Abortion is murder. It affects millions of unborn children. Some people being homosexual affects you in no way, and yet it is a sin. Just as murder is.
      I do not know where you think I sound condescending about people following the Torah in my post, and that is the opposite of my opinion.
      ~Rebekah

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    2. But isn't abortion not affecting you? To play the devil's advocate. You say we shouldn't protest because we have all been bound to sin even if it isn't homosexuality. So then we shouldn't protest abortion because we are all guilty of sin. Homosexuality is affecting many people too who do not know truth. From what I see, you are still not answering about Romans 1. I know this post is ancient by now but if you would comment that'd be great. I'd love to have better clarity.
      Isabella Newton

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  5. Rebekah. Being gay is a sin, period. End of story. Romans 1 will back me up. Give me one place where it says being gay is NOT a sin!

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    1. Hi Tori, I did not mean to sound like I was saying homosexuality is not a sin- far from! I hope you will read my post again and try to understand what I meant better. Sorry.
      ~Rebekah

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    2. I understand better now, Rebekah, but I do hope you'll try not to be so sarcastic. :)

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  6. Hello Calico Sisters :) I am not sure if I understand everything you are trying to say in your post, but your view on homosexuality seems very unusual especially because it is based on your interactions/conversations with such individuals rather than the Bible alone. According to the God's Word homosexuality is a curse, a humiliation and a sign that God has handed that individual over to his/her own lusts because of their rebellion towards our Creator and His Godly order of nature. In my personal opinion this is not a position any Christian wants to be in and acting in the lusts of the flesh is most definitely a sin. An individual afflicted by God in this way, can most definitely be cleansed by God's grace if they were to repent from their lusts. Which leads us to the conclusion that practicing homosexuality is a sin.

    Sincerely,
    Amy

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    1. Madam/Sir Anonymous, I don't know for sure if I understand you correctly, but you are surely wrong in correcting the right post of the Sisters. She is saying that it is a sin but its the kind of sin that brings out Christians sin of despising the sinner. She says that its ok to condemn the sin but certain sins we condemn because we look down on those who do them and not for the sake of the love of God. Sisters, am I right?

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    2. Yes! Exactly what you've stated Ed!
      Our intention was not to use the example of people we know who once led this lifestyle as a crutch in any way to not condemn them, but quite the opposite! While it's easy for us to say that these people are surely living a lifestyle full of sin, why are we one, saying its a sin if these statutes are somehow no longer in effect and also two, just what Ed here has clarified, we condemn but not for the sake of God.

      Thank you for all the thoughts!!

      Cassie
      the elder sister & writer

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